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The USA loses control of the internet Oct. 1 2016
Topic Started: Sep 3 2016, 02:16 AM (1,045 Views)
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Sep 3 2016, 03:55 AM
I always argued Obamacare was a stepping stone to a healthcare system more attuned to what Canada has but that is a subject for a different thread if you really want to get into that little nugget.

Focusing on the topic at hand, Why should America say what doman names are used and how for other countries? It seems more reasonable to remove that override. If governments can be corrupt, why should I trust America's to be fair to my domain disgnations?
Yeah, see I'm not an expert on this and I'm not advocating that it's dangerous. But I believe the answer to your question on why should you trust the US government is: I think since we have the rights and liberties of citizens we are allowed to view whatever we want based on our constitution and Bill and Rights. So there wouldn't be a need for the US to ban sites. It's also possible that if Government does have control instead of the private company, that could lead back-doors to intelligence agencies like the NSA - who love to spy and hack our stuff already. I believe it makes us more vulnerable. And you're right, they could very well be engaged in sinister activity as of now, but it seems everything has been fine for the internet these last 20 years.

But yeah, I really can't answer your question because I don't know myself but I believe the USA has control over the internet because the US Created the internet. Kind of like saying, I built the house so I get to live in it, but you guys can stay over as my guests.


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My point is this: I'm not American. I have my OWN bill of rights. So should my bill of rights be disregarded if it doesn't have all the same freedoms as yours?

The internet may have been made by the US but it is not owned by the US. Does Canada have a control on all phones because a Canadian made telephones?
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ICANN has nothing to do with the United Nations. If you read the last link in the OP, you'll see that giving to control to ICANN was done so as not to hand over that power to the UN. ICANN has been doing this job for years anyway, what's being relinquished is in a sense the US veto power over things, such as the .xxx domain for porn sites. This does not have anything to do with regulating the content of websites or anything like that, that is already done through each countries national laws anyway. This about more foundational stuff, such as web addresses, domain names etc. Given how crucial the internet is to the entire world, I think having this function in the hands of a more impartial body is appropriate.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. ICANN has been running things for 20 years, they are not affiliated with the UN; they are privately owned. Which is why the transfer to the UN is unorthodox and leads to questions of why
But there is no transfer to the UN though. Transferring their remaining power to ICANN was done as a compromise to NOT leave it in the hands of the UN. The UN has nothing to do with this.
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Let me get back to you, Ninja. I work all weekend, shift work, don't have time to do my research yet. This topic may be dead by then but stand by :) . You could just as well be right


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